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MessagePublié: 09 Décembre 2009, 21:42 
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Lu sur le site du Huffington Post :

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UFO Over Norway: Residents Baffled By Mysterious Swirling Blue Light In The Sky (VIDEO)

First Posted: 12- 9-09 12:46 PM | Updated: 12- 9-09 01:25 PM

Residents in the north of Norway are mystified by a bizarre UFO that flashed over the sky. Pictures and video footage of the strange swirling blue light in the sky do not help much in the way of determining what caused the UFO. The description of how it happened is pretty incredible:

The phenomenon began when what appeared to be a blue light seemed to soar up from behind a mountain. It stopped mid-air, then began to circulate.


Within seconds a giant spiral had covered the entire sky. Then a green-blue beam of light shot out from its centre - lasting for ten to twelve minutes before disappearing completely.


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Il y a un article plus détaillé et de jolies images sur le site du Daily Mail : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... z0ZCOomAQa

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Mystery as spiral blue light display hovers above Norway

By Mail Foreign Service and Will Stewart
Last updated at 5:00 PM on 09th December 2009


A mysterious light display appearing over Norway last night has left thousands of residents in the north of the country baffled.

Witnesses from Trøndelag to Finnmark compared the amazing sight to anything from a Russian rocket to a meteor or a shock wave - although no one appears to have mentioned UFOs yet.

The phenomenon began when what appeared to be a blue light seemed to soar up from behind a mountain. It stopped mid-air, then began to circulate.
Strange spiral: Residents in northern Norway were left stunned after the lightshow, which almost looked computer-generated, appeared in the skies above them

Strange spiral: Residents in northern Norway were left stunned after the lightshow, which almost looked computer-generated, appeared in the skies above them

Within seconds a giant spiral had covered the entire sky. Then a green-blue beam of light shot out from its centre - lasting for ten to twelve minutes before disappearing completely.

The Norwegian Meteorological Institute was flooded with telephone calls after the light storm - which astronomers have said did not appear to have been connected to the aurora, or Northern Lights, so common in that area of the world.

The mystery deepened tonight as Russia denied it had been conducting missile tests in the area.

Fred Hansen, from Bø in Vesterålen, described the sight as 'like a big fireball that went around, with a great light around it again.'

'It spun and exploded in the sky,' Totto Eriksen from Tromsø told VG Nett.

He spotted the lights as he walked his daughter Amalie to school.

He said: 'We saw it from the Inner Harbor in Tromsø. It was absolutely fantastic.

'It almost looked like a rocket that spun around and around and then went diagonally down the heavens.

'It looked like the moon was coming over the mountain, but then came something completely different.'

'It was like a giant spiral - a shooting star that spun around and around. I initially thought it was a projector', added Axel Rose Berg, from Alta.

Celebrity astronomer Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard told VG Nett he had never seen anything like the lights.

He said: 'My first thought was that it was a fireball meteor, but it has lasted far too long.

'It may have been a missile in Russia, but I can not guarantee that it is the answer.'

Air Traffic control in Tromsø claimed the light show lasted for two minutes, but admitted that was 'far too long to be an astronomical phenomena.'

Tromsø Geophysical Observatory researcher Truls Lynne Hansen was certain the light had been caused by a missile launch.

He told Norwegian media that the missile had likely lost control and exploded. The spiral, he claimed, was the result of light reflecting on the leaking fuel. He was quoted as saying the light was sunlight, despite the strange lights showing up at night.

The Barents Observer quoted Norwegian Defence spokesman Jon Espen Lien as saying that the Norwegian military does not know what the lights were - but that they were probably from a Russian missile.

He said it was normal for Russia to use the White Sea and the Barents Sea as a testing ground for missiles.

However a Moscow news outlet tonight quoted the Russian Navy as denying any rocket launches from the White Sea area.

Norway should be informed of such launches under international agreements, it was stressed.

The Russian Defence Ministry was unavailable for comment last night.

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MessagePublié: 09 Décembre 2009, 22:44 
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Soyons fou : je poste les images du Daily Mail :

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Edit : Je suis vraiment le seul à trouver ça intriguant ? :P
L'explication qui circule actuellement est celle d'une fusée ou d'un missile tournant sur elle/lui-même.

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MessagePublié: 09 Décembre 2009, 23:40 
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Personnellement, je trouve ça très joli, et beaucoup plus original que ceux qu'on voit d'habitude :P

Oui, l'hypothèse du truc qui tourne sans s'arrêter est une explication plausible... c'est en tout cas ce que je pense, après je ne suis pas un spécialiste en aérospatiale :mrgreen:

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MessagePublié: 09 Décembre 2009, 23:49 
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D'autres images par ici : http://www.altaposten.no/lokalt/bildese ... =3#pageTop

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MessagePublié: 09 Décembre 2009, 23:53 
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Pour BarentsObserver.com, et le porte-parole du ministère de la défense Norvégien, c'était vraisemblablement un missile russe qui est parti en vrille :

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Failed Russian missile visible over Northern Norway
2009-12-09

UPDATED: This unique photo taken in Northern Norway shows a Russian intercontinental missile flying into a spiral before it exploded in the atmosphare early Wednesday morning. The missile was most likely yet another failed test launch of a Bulava missile from the Typhoon submarine "Dmitri Donskoy" in the White Sea area.

The giant spiral shaped light that could be seen in the eastern sky for several minutes on Wednesday morning was probably caused by a failed missile launch from the White Sea, several Norwegian space and defense experts believe.

Interviewed by the Norwegian TV2, an anonymous Russian military source says it was failed launch of a Bulava missile from a submarine in the White Sea Wednesday morning.

Researcher at the Tromsø Geophysical Observatory Truls Lynne Hansen is certain that the light was caused by a missile launch:

- The missile has probably come out of control and exploded. The peculiar spiral shaped light pattern comes from reflection of the sun in the leaking fuel, he said to Aftenposten.

Spokesman in the Norwegian Defense Jon Espen Lien says that the Norwegian Defense does not know for sure what the light was, but that it probably was a Russian missile:

- It is quite normal that Russia uses the White Sea and the Barents Sea as testing grounds for weapons.

The failed missile launch that was visible over large areas in Northern Norway are now making headlines world-wide. The Russian TV-internet site Russia Today had a news storry late Wednesday evening under the headline "UFO-show in Norway sky welcomes Obama for Nobel Prize ceremony."

According to NRK, Arkhangelsk Radio sent out an advance warning about several missile launches from the White Sea in the period December 7-10.The warning included launches on the night to Wednesday. An anonymous source in the Northern Fleet told Norwegian news paper VG that they had no information about the incident. Press Attaché at Russia’s Embassy in Oslo Vladimir Isupov did neither have any that could explain the light phenomenon over Northern Norway.

On the morning of November 1, another strange light phenomenon was visible in the sky from large areas of the northern parts of Norway. This incident also caused commotion and many creative explanations to the light were given on different discussion boards. The light was caused by a launch of a Sineva missile from the nuclear submarine “Bryansk” in White Sea, as reported by BarentsObserver.

According to a warning about rocket launching in the White Sea, navigation is prohibited in the southern parts of the sea until December 15.

The Bulava missile test Wednesday morning has been rescheduled several times. Last Bulava test from the submarine "Dmitri Donskoy" on July 15. That test failed and the missile self-destructed soon after launch due to a defective steering system in its first stage. Next test -launch was slated for November 24, as reported by BarentsObserver, but was then postponded.

- Because of the need for coordination of several questions – including technical questions, between the producers and the Russian Ministry of Defence, the test-launch will only be conducted at the end of the year, a source told RIA Novosti. The test was then re-scheduled to the end of December. But then, the test took place on Wednesday December 9th.

With the population of Northern Norway as eyewitnesses, Wednesday's test was the seventh failed launch out of 13.

The Bulava missile is designed for the “Borei” class submarines, the fourth generation nuclear subs, the first of which are now being tested in Severodvinsk, Arkhangelsk Oblast. The vessel “Yury Dolgoruky” will be the flagship in the Russian submarine fleet. Another two vessels of the kind is under construction in the yard.

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C'est quand même curieux, sur ces photos on a l'impression que le faisceau bleuté part du sol, comme un faisceau de projo...

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MessagePublié: 10 Décembre 2009, 00:03 
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Le blog de Bad Astronomy propose une explication et même une vidéo de simulation qui semble la confirmer :

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However, after a moment, I realized this must be a rocket, most likely spiraling out of control. I don’t understand all the details — I don’t have all the info yet — but a rocket fits what we’re seeing here. First, this was seen all over Norway, so it must have been at a high altitude to be so visible. Second, the blue spiral angling down to the right is clearly due to perspective. A rocket spiraling around, and coming up from the lower right, would appear to make tight spirals when it was far away and bigger ones as it got closer.

Third, you can actually see the bright white spiral spinning in the videos. That threw me for a second, to be honest, but after a moment I figured that it makes sense if the rocket is headed more or less straight toward the camera. Whatever it is being lit up (exhaust, or a leaking payload?) would appear to expand in a spiral like water from a spinning sprinklerhead. The spiral itself is not spinning any more than water from the sprinkler is; that’s an illusion of motion.

norway_spiral2Fourth, after a few moments, a black disk appears to expand in the center of the white spiral, as seen in this picture (it’s a little fuzzy; you can see the person taking it must have used a long exposure because foreground lights are jittery, but you get the idea). That’s exactly what I would expect if whatever is being ejected by the rocket ran out; the arms of the spiral would expand away from the center, leaving black emptiness in the middle.

So that’s my hypothesis. A rocket got out of control, perhaps losing a stabilizer, and started to spiral. The two spirals, different in shape, size, and color, indicate something happened in the middle of all this (the rocket second stage fired while still spinning, or something else started leaking out), changing the rocket’s direction. Then, when the fuel or whatever ran out, the white spiral began to disappear from the inside out as the material expanded in space.

So who launched it? The Russians are a likely guess, but –shocker — they’re denying it. I’d love to know and find out what the details are, but whoever shot it up and whatever the purpose, I’m pretty sure what we’re seeing here is a rocket launch that didn’t go exactly according to plan.

Note: there are a lot of stories online about this with more very cool pictures: The Sun and The Daily Mail have it in English, while Norwegian media include VG Nett, Altaposten.no, NRK.no, Framtidinord.no, Nordlis.no, and amazing videos can be seen here and here.

UPDATE: From Doctor Atlantis I heard of this video which simulates particles being spewed out from a spinning rocket booster. Look familiar?



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MessagePublié: 10 Décembre 2009, 00:05 
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La théorie du missile égarée semble raisonnable et logique, mais je ne peux pas m'empêcher de la trouver quand même assez capillotractée.
Il me semble curieux que le missile russe ait pu survoler le territoire norvégien sans se faire repérer ni ne soit inquiété ; sans oublier que le motif de spirale qu'il a produit est vraiment très inhabituel.

Spontanément, sans entendre parler de cette hypothèse, j'aurais plutôt pensé à une sorte de foudre en boule... On aurait pu ensuite imaginer que le froid et l'humidité de l'air ambiante aient diffracté la lumière de telle façon à produire cette forme spiralée, donnant l'impression (à tort) que la foudre en boule tournoyait sur elle-même.

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Bon, je reconnais que ce dernier point (la diffraction produisant un motif en spirale) n'est pas forcément très réaliste lui non plus... :think:

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Cette autre vidéo est un peu plus claire :



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Il me semble curieux que le missile russe ait pu survoler le territoire norvégien sans se faire repérer ni ne soit inquiété ; sans oublier que le motif de spirale qu'il a produit est vraiment très inhabituel.

Apparemment, selon Barents Observer :
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- It is quite normal that Russia uses the White Sea and the Barents Sea as testing grounds for weapons.


Un message russe annonçant le lancer du missile aurait également été intercepté :
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ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC
09 DC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA
65-12.6N 036-37.0E 65-37.2N 036-26.0E
66-12.3N 037-19.0E 66-04.0N 037-47.0E
66-03.0N 038-38.0E 66-06.5N 038-55.0E
65-11.0N 037-28.0E 65-12.1N 036-49.5E
THEN COASTAL LINE 65-12.2N 036-47.6E
2. CANCEL THIS MESSAGE 101000 DEC=
NNNN

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MessagePublié: 10 Décembre 2009, 15:17 
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Voilà :
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2009/ ... russie.php

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